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Old 04-20-2017
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Li yongbo is deadly short board business, 81 world champion, what is the relationship with him

The controversial li yongbo finally surrendered the control power of the Chinese badminton team.

since 1993, the Chinese badminton coach, 24 years, li yongbo has been China badminton words matter.More than 20 years, li yongbo negative rumours, first in the coaching staff members, from ling wei to Li Mao, several into fire and water.Initially the origin of this GongDou drama because li yongbo pressure its qualifications and professional record, li yongbo is the men's double world champion at once took, but only for once, a world champion in in Chinese sports ace bianconeri verily nothing, at least not buy li yongbo is ling wei zhang, as the male shuttler level, ling wei in the 1980 s is an international male shuttler in women's singles of absolute rulers, but li yongbo and particularly strong personality, two people once as fire and water, in the end the GongDou ended in ling wei's departure.Ling wei leave completely laid a li yongbo holding the feather power situation, the subsequent Li Mao qualifications or name has not been enough to bring substantial threat to li yongbo, in recent years, the feather every single coach the appointment of the basic in li yongbo control, li yongbo became China's badminton completely arbitrary.

the contradiction of the coaching staff do not become standard, we judge li yongbo, after all, it belongs to the right and wrong within the scope of work, it is difficult to judge right and wrong, in fact, li yongbo so much controversy over the years, the core of the problem or question, his business ability, eventually overtake li yongbo last straw or Rio Olympics China badminton fiasco.Rio Olympics actually take two gold MEDALS not too ugly, the problem is that one is the women's singles and women's doubles lost two items, you know, after the women's doubles China has realized in the Olympics for five successive, women's singles also won four consecutive Olympic Games, the two projects in Rio China did not even get a medal, can say underpants lose out;Second, the Chinese badminton team a total of only took four MEDALS, I'm terribly sorry ace corporation.

a landslide of Chinese women's singles and women's doubles, "back pan man" nature is two single head coach with Chen qiu jin, but since the London Olympic Games won 5 gold is the achievement of li yongbo, Rio you always the responsible for the landslide.In fact, the more than 20 years, li yongbo, more like the Chinese badminton team ouchi main business basic single head coach, we filter the ups and downs of each individual record carefully you will see whether xing is failure, generally has nothing to do with li yongbo.Such as male shuttler mogul Shang Xianhu deciding the success or failure of men's singles, Lin is one of the most famous sparing in li yongbo is known to all, but actually really make Lin Dan is the force behind the overlord Shang Xianhu.Shang Xianhu director of men's singles, the Sydney Olympic Games in 2000 in the context of persevering a dark horse in the fight scene, won the men's singles champion, no Shang Xianhu no the gold medal, so to speak.Shang Xianhu after retirement, the Chinese men's singles fall into the trough, Lin Dan in the Athens Olympic Games 04 years early, to prepare for the Olympic Games, has a 65 - year - old Shang Xianhu be reinstated, this is the first Lin Olympic champions league, then Shang Xianhu out national team, Lin face the impact of the lee is more and more big, the 12 before the London Olympics, Shang Xianhu mountain again, Lin defending.Rio DE janeiro Olympic Lin to lee, is old overwhelmed factors, but also cannot ignore Shang Xianhu left.But there are some people know Shang Xianhu, people thought it was li yongbo created Lin.

the decline of women's singles and women's doubles are linked to the change of head coach, Tang Xinghua women's singles coach, it is played all over the world invincible hand, 08 Olympic Games, zhang ning directly from alternative Tang Xinghua athletes, is the turning point of the Chinese women's singles to decline, afterwards because of poor record, li yongbo substitute jin zhang is in charge of women's singles, women's singles record straight down, until the Rio Olympics out with MEDALS.A nots allow to ignore the fact that, from zhang ning to jin for two Olympic Games cycle, the Chinese women's singles have been Li Xuerui, yihan wang, Wang Shixian three players, on the premise of foreign masters emerge in endlessly, women's singles did not create a powerful new, coaching dare not flatter really, the same is true of women's doubles.We can roughly summary, so the old generation of coach out and a new generation of the inadequacy of ability of coaches, is a major cause of China's badminton slump, xing and failure, and li yongbo on earth have how old relation, but the people in China badminton coaching staff but only saw li yongbo a person's shadow.

can shi CAI zhenhua teaching, an important reason is that the Chinese men's table tennis team from the bottom hand pull out, CAI zhenhua.CAI zhenhua took over the Chinese table tennis before the boys' team, China completely suppressed by European athletes, with few s, CAI zhenhua first out wang tao the doubles, then step by created a generation of players headed by liu guoliang and kong linghui Gemini, complete recovery the monopoly of national sport.China badminton team had to create the brilliant, the contribution of li yongbo on business and CAI zhenhua cannot compare, li yongbo had vowed to take out of the 100 world championships, I have no specific statistics, but if the count thomas-uber hands the team title, to his time as head coach li yongbo, Chinese badminton is born 81 world champion, is among the 81 world championships, how a few is li yongbo hold out, rather than li yongbo out of the 81 world champion, li yongbo rather witnessed the 81 world championships.

li yongbo, China's badminton day finally lit up.
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Old 04-20-2017
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According to the Guangzhou reference commentator Rumi reports, China badminton team coaches competition will be launched in this week or next week, took the helm for 24 years as head coach Li Yongbo said may no longer hold any position in the team, all the news sources, he will likely be the outgoing coach Kuniwa, future work may be related to the 2022 Beijing winter olympics. From the beginning of 1993, Li Yongbo entered the China badminton team, in the past 6 Olympic Games won a total of 18 gold medals, 5 medals in women's doubles, women's singles, men of the 4 medals, 3 gold medals in men's doubles, mixed doubles two.

Last year, the Rio Olympic Games, Malaysia media once broke, only two gold medals Chinese badminton team will replace the head coach of men's doubles group coach Zhang Jun will replace Li Yongbo. However, this was denied by the party Zhang Jun, Li Yongbo also continue to serve as head coach. It is understood. Chinese badminton team coaches competition work will start immediately, but also plans to complete before the next month the Sudirman Cup World mixed team badminton championship.

Li Yongbo, 55, Liaoning, Dalian. The athletes in the period, Li Yongbo and teammate Tian Bingyi won two world championships men's doubles champion, is the three main members of the Thomas cup champion. Starting in 1993, Li Yongbo entered the Chinese badminton team, his goal is to train 100 world champions during his tenure. The 2012 London Olympics is the most glorious moment of his coaching career, Chinese team won the men's singles, women's singles, men's doubles, women's doubles and mixed doubles gold medal.

Li Yongbo outspoken, love his people think this is a reflection of his human nature is not straightforward northeast, love his people think he koumeizhelan. The aspect of badminton for nearly half a century, in charge of the country almost a century of 1\/4 plume's meritorious coach always get both praise and blame. Over the past two years, his words and deeds low-key, no longer appear in the past. In last year's Olympic Games in Rio, China team only won the men's singles and men's doubles gold medal, to complete the task, but the women's doubles and mixed doubles two red gold project high odds, and lean women's singles project, the helm Li Yongbo again pushed in the teeth of the storm. With the results of the ups and downs of the feather, for Li Yongbo class news spread from time to time on the internet.

Director General of the State Sports General Administration of the State Council of the people's Republic of China at the beginning of his office made it clear that it is necessary to intensify efforts to support the advantages of the project, but the results are not satisfactory, the country's leading group will be adjusted appropriately. In the Rio Olympic Games gold has not been the Chinese gymnastics team to become the focus of the rectification object, this once the gold medal division in the new Olympic cycle under great pressure, the reorganization of the coach team without delay. In addition to China and China both in women's volleyball table tennis team last week announced a new Olympic cycle team coaches, Chinese weightlifting team head coach open competition conference held in Beijing last week, Yu Jie and Zhang Guozheng are the only candidates for men and women.

China badminton team in Tokyo Olympic Games gold medal under tremendous pressure, the 2020 Summer Olympics host Japan team won last year in Rio's first ever Olympic gold medal in the badminton team, in 2014 he beat Chinese men's team and won the Thomas cup champion, the rise is more and more obvious include Denmark, Malaysia etc. The opponent. In addition to pressure from his opponents, the country feather itself into labor, veterans have retired, young players failed to take over, the advantages of the project is gradually catching up. Li Yongbo last week with the team to open the Malaysia open, insiders revealed that he privately said that this is estimated to be the last time he saw the scene, Lin Lee war". The feather of late May will participate in the Sudirman Cup, will be expected to have the new head led the team to 7 consecutive attack.
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Old 05-02-2017
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I think it is high time now most appropriate to create this thread to discuss about China badminton scene. So from time to time I will keep this thread updated with China latest badminton news.
I agree with you.
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I agree with you.
Thanks for your support too.
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Taking into consideration Chen Long’s status as reigning Olympic and World champion, the Badminton World Federation has granted the Chinese star a wild card to compete in the TOTAL BWF World Championships 2017.

Exercising its prerogative to nominate a wild-card entry in each category, BWF determined the 28-year-old’s stature and fan appeal would enhance the Championships to be held at Emirates Arena in Glasgow, Scotland, from 21-27 August this year. Chen Long has won the Men’s Singles title at the last two editions of the World Championships as well as gold at last summer’s Rio 2016 Olympic Games.

Chen Long (featured image) fell short of automatic qualification for the TOTAL BWF World Championships 2017, based on the BWF World Rankings of Thursday 27 April – the ranking date that determined the eligibility of players for this year’s World Championships.

This is the only wild card being awarded by BWF for the TOTAL BWF World Championships 2017.

Fair or not? Should Chen Long be awarded the wild card to play in Glasgow WC 2017? This has been a very hot issue debated online. Of course it is unfair to just give Chen Long a wild card to play in Glasgow WC 2017. But nothing can be done as BWF has already decided to give Chen Long the wild card.
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*Thaihot China Open 2016 | Badminton R16 M1-WD | Mat/Tak vs Huang/Li*

Chinese Umpire named "CAI FENGJIE" was unfaithful several times during the match.
He was forcibly trying to get the Chinese pair to win.
At one point he didn't allow the Japanese pair to challenge, even though they called for it right away.
PLEASE GET HIM FIRED, HE DOESN'T EVEN KNOW THE RULES!
*He is getting paid to cheat, please stop this madness.


BWF NEEDS TO take disciplinary actions against this judge. That was a disgusting display of incompetence, bias and nationalism.
1. The refusal of the rightful challenge of the Japanese (for a shuttle confirmed to be in).
2. The granting of every single request of the Chinese to change the shuttle despite the disagreement of the Japanese server.
3. Chinese time-wasting tactics and endless request to mop the court, all of this is unacceptable and has no place in a Premier Superseries Tournament.


Evidence of Cheating/Unfaithfulness in Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiL9-ofibGo
48:08
1:03:51
1:06:28
1:26:06

Gillian Clark (Commentator) EVEN makes the following statement at 1:10:20
"The tournament referee is supposed to make sure that the court officials are from nations other than the nations from which the players come from, to ensure neutrality"
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When losing is the winning strategy: Game Theory, Badminton, and the 2012 Summer Olympics
Posted on August 1, 2012 by Julie VanDusky-Allen — 3 Comments ↓
The Badminton World Federation disqualified four female badminton teams today from the London Olympics for unsportsmanlike behavior. These teams purposefully tried to lose their first match in a round robin event in order to be paired against easier teams in subsequent rounds (video recap here). These teams were obviously cheating as purposely losing in this manner is against the badminton rules. So why would so many teams blatantly cheat in a very public and very important sporting event? Because they thought they could get away with it. Prior to this mass banning of teams, several Chinese teams had a history of purposefully trying to lose in badminton matches and they were never punished for their behavior.

Being able to cheat and get away with it gave the Chinese teams a huge advantage in the Olympics. Hence, other teams followed the example of the Chinese teams and tried to lose, so they would also have an advantage in later rounds of the competition. All the cheating teams believed there existed a low probability of being caught and/or punished for cheating given past examples.

I created a game to demonstrate why it was in the best interest of all the badminton teams to try to lose their first badminton matches, assuming there was a very low probability that they would be caught.

The Players

There are two players in this game, Team 1 and Team 2. Team 1 is the better team. They have a 60% chance of winning the match if both teams play fairly. Team 2 is the weaker team. They only have a 40% chance of winning the match if both teams play fairly.

Both teams want to lose the match (while the A team is the better team in this particular round, they would rather have easier competition in subsequent rounds of tournament play). If a team loses, they receive 10 points. Alternatively, if a team wins, they receive 0 points.

Nature also plays a role in this game. Nature represents both the probability that the team will be found cheating and punished for their behavior. If Nature decides that a team played unfairly, Nature will punish the team, but only 5% of the time. Given that punishment has been rare in the past, this probability is reasonable, but can be altered to change the risk/reward ratio for cheating. If a team is caught cheating, they receive -10 points.

The Moves (See Figure 1)

Team 1 goes first. They can “Cooperate” and try to win the game, or they can “Defect”, and purposefully try to lose.

Team 2 moves next. They observed Team 1’s move. Team 2 can also “Cooperate” and try to win the game, or “Defect”, and purposefully try to lose.



The Outcomes

There are four outcomes.

1. Both teams Cooperate

For this outcome, both teams played fairly and tried to win the game. Team 1 wins 60% of the time when this occurs, and Team 2 wins 40% of the time. A team receives 0 points for winning and 10 points for losing. Hence, the expected utility for each team if this outcome occurs is:

([(0.6*0)+(0.4*10)] , [(0.4*0)+(0.6*10)]) = (4, 6)

2. Team 1 Cooperates, Team 2 Defects

For this outcome, Team 1 tried to win and Team 2 tried to lose. Team 1 wins with a 100% probability and receives 0 points for winning.

Since Team 2 cheated, there is a probability that Nature will punish them. Nature punishes Team 2 5% of the time. If Team 2 is punished, they receive -10 points. The other 95% of the time, Team 2 gets away with it and receives 10 points for losing.

The expected utility for each team if this outcome occurs is:

(0, [(0.95*10)+(0.05*-10)]) = (0, 9)

3. Team 1 Defects, Team 2 Cooperates

For this outcome, Team 1 tried to lose and Team 2 tried to win. Team 2 wins with a 100% probability and receives 0 points for winning.

Since Team 1 cheated, there is a probability that Nature will punish them. Nature punishes Team 1 5% of the time. If Team 1 is punished, they receive -10 points. The other 95% of the time, Team 1 gets away with it and receives 10 points for losing.

The expected utility for each team if this outcome occurs is:

([(0.95*10)+(0.05*-10)], 0) = (9, 0)

4. Team 1 Defects, Team 2 Defects

For this outcome, both teams tried to lose. Since both teams tried to lose, there is a 50% chance that any team could win.

If a team wins, and Nature does not catch them cheating (which happens 95% of the time), the team receives 0 points.

If a team loses, and Nature does not catch them cheating (which happens 95% of the time), the team receives 10 points.

If Nature catches a team cheating (which happens 5% of the time), regardless of whether the team won or lost, the team receives -10 points.

The expected utility for each team if this outcome occurs is:

([(0.5*(0.95*0))+(0.5*(0.95*10))+(0.05*-10)], [(0.5*(0.95*0))+(0.5*(0.95*10))+(0.05*-10)]) = (4.25, 4.25)

The Nash Equilibria (See Figures 2 and 3)





There is one Nash Equilibrium derived from backwards induction, {Defect; Defect, Defect}.

There are two Nash Equilibria derived from the strategic form game, {Defect; Cooperate, Defect} and {Defect; Defect, Defect}.

This game suggests that as long as the Badminton World Federation rarely punishes players for trying to lose in the first match of a round robin even, it is in a team’s best interest to try to cheat early on in order to improve their chances of winning in subsequent rounds. To change this outcome, the Badminton World Federation should either detect and punish cheating more often, or change the rules of the tournament where losing in an early round is not so advantageous.

(For another interesting sports match– the 1994 Caribbean Cup provides a classic example of how rules fundamentally change the expected behavior of players in an environment where the object of the game appears simple. By the end of the game, it was in the best interest of both teams to try to score points for the other team).
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China doubles walkover angers fans


Lu and Huang’s withdrawal from S’pore Open final a repeat of 2011 incident, also involving Chinese
By Adelene Wong


Published 4:16 AM, April 13, 2015


Updated 4:16 AM, April 13, 2015

SINGAPORE — A number of fans who bought tickets to the final day of the OUE Singapore Open were left fuming yesterday after the last-minute withdrawals of world No 6 mixed-doubles pair Lu Kai and Huang Yaqiong.
The final between Chinese pairs, world No 1 Zhang Nan and Zhao Yunlei, and Lu and Huang, was expected to start at 1pm at the Singapore Indoor Stadium yesterday. But instead, Zhang and Zhao were handed the title via a walkover after their team-mates withdrew from the competition, due to Lu’s knee injury. Zhang went on to partner Fu Haifeng in the men’s doubles final later in the day, but the duo were beaten 2-1 by Indonesians Angga Pratama and Ricky Karanda Suwardi.
This is not the first time that the Singapore Open has been hit by such an incident. In 2011, former world No 1 and five-time world champion Lin Dan had conceded a walkover to team-mate Chen Jin in the men’s singles final. Citing a stomach ailment for his late withdrawal, the Chinese superstar was booed by the crowd during his speech to fans.
Yesterday, one fan, Yong Wai Chien, who came to watch the finals with three friends, said he was disappointed by the pull-out. “As a badminton fan, I am disappointed. Such situations tarnish the image of the sport,” said Yong, who bought a S$60 season pass to the tournament.
“Even before coming to the match today, I was worried about the pull-out of one of the pairs of finalists in the mixed doubles. There is depth and strength in the China national badminton team and they use that to manipulate results.”
Added Albert Har, 50: “The mixed-doubles match is usually the most dynamic and interesting to watch and it was set as the opener to today’s matches. I feel like I wasted my money. To me, the match was clearly thrown away to allow Zhang Nan to concentrate on the men’s doubles.”
Another fan, Brandon Kuan, hopes the Badminton World Federation (BWF) will look into such incidents, saying: “This is not right, though I am a little bit numb towards such withdrawals ... It is hurting the image of the tournament in Singapore.
“I don’t know what the BWF can do, but perhaps, they can launch a proper investigation into each walkover match.”
When contacted by TODAY, representatives from the BWF — the world governing body for the sport — as well as the event’s organiser, the Singapore Badminton Association, referred to the official statement from the tournament doctor. Said the statement by the Singapore Emergency Ambulance Services: “(Lu) has a long-standing history of having a Baker’s cyst in his left knee. After the (semi-final) match, the cyst increased in size and caused posterior knee pain. He was unable to fully flex his left knee and that resulted in knee weakness. As a result, he is not fit to continue to participate in the competition.”
The Chinese national team has also been hit by other scandals in the past. At the 2012 London Olympic Games, top-seeded pair Yu Yang and Wang Xiaoli — along with three pairs from South Korea and Indonesia — were booted out of the competition for trying to lose their matches, in an attempt to manipulate the draw.
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China's badminton champion Zheng Bo has been kicked off the national team for violating team regulations.

It is reported that the 28-year-old former doubles world number one was expelled after enjoying a drink instead of returning for team training on the eve of the Thomas Cup and Uber Cup.

An official from the Sports Administration of Hunan Province has confirmed Zhang Bo's return to the provincial team, but said that it was the result of a normal reshuffling of the national team.

Zheng Bo and Ma Jin are China's only active mixed pair who have claimed a badminton world title.
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How old are Chen Qingchen, Chen Long?

Kuala Lumpur: Just a few days after last week Korea Open champion Qiao Bin was found to be potentially engaged in age fabrication, BadmintonPlanet.com continued to discover more age discrepancies from Chinese badminton players.


BadmintonPlanet obtained a document showing current World No. 14 women's doubles pair, Chen QingChen (listed as AGE: 19, 06/23/1997 on Badminton World Federation (BWF) official website) and Jia Yifan (listed as AGE: 19, 06/29/1997 on BWF official website), are actually much older than what were shown on their official profiles on BWF website.

In picture below, Chen Qingchen was listed as being born in 1994, and if this is true, her current age should be 22. In addition, Jia Yifan was listed as being born in 1995 and should be 21 years old this year. As you may have known, Chen/Jia won the 2014, 2015 world girls' doubles titles, while that tournament has specifically stated only players under 19 are allowed to participate in. Let's do some math here, if Chen Qingchen's real age is 22 right now, Chen should have been 20 years old while Jia was 19 in 2014. Therefore, BadmintonPlanet seriously doubt about their eligibilities to participate in the 2014 and 2015 World Junior Championships.


In addition, BWF has listed reigning Olympic Champion Chen Long to be born on January 18, 1989. However, if you watch the video below, China's chief badminton coach actually said Chen Long was born in 1988. Obviously some individuals have deliberately trying to misrepresent their true age.



Everybody is innocent until proven guilty, as we are not in a position to point fingers to anyone for anything. We really hope BWF could get to the bottom of this potential age fraud scandal and take any necessary actions to prevent players or badminton organizations from lying about their real ages.
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